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Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay"
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(December 12, 2014 at 2:13 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: ...objective morality...

What is that exactly?

Does that mean morality can be measured, like temperature, mass or velocity? Can we plug numbers into a spread sheet and compute the most moral course of action in any decision?

Is not the definition of "objective", something free of values, opinions and judgment calls? Do we not say phrases like "moral judgment" and "moral values". Doesn't our very language admit that morality is subjective?

If there is a god who decides what is or is not moral, how does that make morality objective? By definition, the opinions of any being, no matter how powerful, benevolent or wise that being may be, are subjective. All you've done is sacrifice your judgment to someone else's.

As soon as someone can explain what "objective morality" is supposed to be and how exactly we can measure it, then I will consider whether or not it exists.
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Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay" - by Silver - December 11, 2014 at 5:17 pm
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay" - by abaris - December 11, 2014 at 6:09 pm
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay" - by Alex K - December 11, 2014 at 6:37 pm
RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay" - by Crossless1 - December 11, 2014 at 6:17 pm
RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay" - by Jenny A - December 11, 2014 at 6:19 pm
RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay" - by Alex K - December 11, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay" - by Chas - December 12, 2014 at 9:10 am
RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay" - by Mudhammam - December 13, 2014 at 12:30 pm
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay" - by Alex K - December 11, 2014 at 5:56 pm
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay" - by Jenny A - December 11, 2014 at 6:06 pm
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RE: Billboard proclaims "Nobody is born gay" - by Silver - December 11, 2014 at 6:25 pm
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