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What came first, the atheist or the theist?

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RE: What came first, the atheist or the theist?

July 22, 2010 at 8:56 pm (This post was last modified: July 22, 2010 at 9:04 pm by fr0d0.)

Ah I see an opportunity to roll out my favourite observation... that most atheists are ignorant atheists, and ignorant atheist is the default position. You move from that to informed atheist once you learn what to be a-theist about. Children of theists are also ignorant atheists until they become informed either way.

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The trouble is that the definition of 'atheism' isn't restricted as you'd like. If you could insist that the term atheist as defined as a-theism, or a stance in relation to theism, then you may gain some support.

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