god has no free will

[dyresand]

Keeping this out of religion and Christianity section.

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1. An Omniscient (all-knowing) Being Does Not Have Free Will

If you are all-knowing, you know your future actions, what choices you will make, and you cannot change them otherwise your knowledge would be wrong, and you wouldn't be all-knowing. An omniscient being has no free will to choose actions; all its actions are predetermined.

“There is a light switch on the wall; God may either turn it on, or leave it off; but, since God already knows the future, God knows that he will turn it on. That is part of his knowledge. But what if God exercises freewill, and chooses not to turn it on. Is this possible?”

If you knew a decision you are going to make in the future... what would it mean? You would have no free will to change that choice. No option, no choices... based on the fact that you know it's going to happen, it is predestined and no amount of strong will can change it. The further in the future the predicted choice is, the less free will you have to change it! Well imagine if for infinity you'd always known exactly what choices you were going to make and that you could never be wrong. You would never have had any free will in any choice, ever!

In effect God is an observer. An omniscient being has no free will - its entire future is set out and it has no choice but to follow its predestined path.

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I did not read your entire post, it was just too long. Nothing against you but rather I am high lighting my own weakness. You say that an omniscient being's actions are pre-determined. I ask the question, pre-determined by what? It can't be determined by the being's omniscience because omniscience isn't an action or cause. Second question, why would an omniscient being want to change its choice? Wouldn't such a being have made an optimal choice the first time around?

It is predetermined if god exists.
all i am saying is if god is all knowing and theists like to say that.
he knows everything he knows every outcome even to the smallest detail.
even he to will fall victim to it. lets say if you were god you know everything you know who is worth and who isn't. you will know every action of every human being except your own like we as people do not know our future actions years down the road. i think thunderf00t explained it best.