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Suicide
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RE: Suicide
(December 15, 2014 at 10:18 pm)Drich Wrote: Hell is seperation from the Father.
But Jesus is the father. Unless this is a reference to what you say a bit later, that Jesus "put his deity aside," in which case he was separated from the father the whole time he was on Earth. And the notion of hell as a separation from god is a choice on the part of the wicked based on their rejection of god, which Jesus doesn't do. Thus his separation from god was not the same thing, which we know because he is able to use god's power during his time on Earth.

And the idea of god's timelessness doesn't mean that three days in hell were literally like 3,000 years in hell. One would hope that god had better control over his perception of time. Then again, if he "put aside his deity" then those three days would have just been three days unless we assume that for some reason he decided to keep the part where a day seems to last forever (no DMV in those days to simulate that, after all).
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

-Stephen Jay Gould
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Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 10:40 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 10:44 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 11:03 am
RE: Suicide - by The Valkyrie - December 14, 2014 at 8:03 pm
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 14, 2014 at 8:12 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 11:54 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - December 14, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 15, 2014 at 2:59 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 16, 2014 at 9:30 pm
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 16, 2014 at 10:26 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 16, 2014 at 11:48 pm
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 17, 2014 at 12:09 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 17, 2014 at 12:24 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 17, 2014 at 12:13 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 12:01 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 18, 2014 at 12:45 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 12:55 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 18, 2014 at 2:07 am
RE: Suicide - by Angrboda - December 18, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 17, 2014 at 12:32 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 17, 2014 at 3:08 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 16, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - December 16, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: Suicide - by Tonus - December 17, 2014 at 6:25 am
RE: Suicide - by Angrboda - December 17, 2014 at 4:29 pm
RE: Suicide - by paulpablo - December 17, 2014 at 12:18 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 11:08 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 11:17 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - December 14, 2014 at 10:09 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - December 14, 2014 at 10:21 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 11:09 am
RE: Suicide - by Tonus - December 14, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 11:43 am
RE: Suicide - by Aoi Magi - December 14, 2014 at 11:44 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 11:45 am
RE: Suicide - by Cyberman - December 14, 2014 at 12:19 pm
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Suicide - by Kitty Galore - December 15, 2014 at 10:42 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 16, 2014 at 1:38 am
RE: Suicide - by Brakeman - December 14, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 14, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: Suicide - by Godschild - December 14, 2014 at 7:50 pm
RE: Suicide - by Cyberman - December 14, 2014 at 7:56 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 8:00 pm
RE: Suicide - by Tonus - December 15, 2014 at 6:32 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 15, 2014 at 10:18 pm
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - December 15, 2014 at 10:25 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 16, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - December 16, 2014 at 11:26 am
RE: Suicide - by KevinM1 - December 16, 2014 at 1:34 pm
RE: Suicide - by Brakeman - December 16, 2014 at 1:38 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 16, 2014 at 9:10 pm
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 16, 2014 at 9:15 pm
RE: Suicide - by Brakeman - December 15, 2014 at 10:30 pm
RE: Suicide - by Tonus - December 16, 2014 at 6:24 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 16, 2014 at 8:44 pm
RE: Suicide - by Tonus - December 16, 2014 at 9:28 pm
RE: Suicide - by Cyberman - December 14, 2014 at 8:01 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 14, 2014 at 8:10 pm
RE: Suicide - by Cyberman - December 14, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Suicide - by The Valkyrie - December 14, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 15, 2014 at 12:13 am
RE: Suicide - by Brakeman - December 15, 2014 at 8:23 am
RE: Suicide - by Drich - December 15, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 15, 2014 at 10:50 pm
RE: Suicide - by Brakeman - December 15, 2014 at 11:16 pm
RE: Suicide - by Brakeman - December 14, 2014 at 9:57 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - December 14, 2014 at 10:04 pm
RE: Suicide - by dyresand - December 14, 2014 at 9:12 pm
RE: Suicide - by IATIA - December 14, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: Suicide - by Cyberman - December 15, 2014 at 4:01 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 15, 2014 at 6:49 am
RE: Suicide - by abaris - December 15, 2014 at 7:40 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 15, 2014 at 7:42 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 15, 2014 at 8:54 am
RE: Suicide - by KevinM1 - December 15, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 16, 2014 at 2:44 am
RE: Suicide - by Cyberman - December 16, 2014 at 3:30 am
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 16, 2014 at 8:47 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 17, 2014 at 3:26 am
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 17, 2014 at 4:31 pm
RE: Suicide - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 4:40 am
RE: Suicide - by Thumpalumpacus - December 18, 2014 at 5:10 am
RE: Suicide - by Ryantology - December 18, 2014 at 2:43 pm

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