Suicide

[Drich]

Sorry I missed this. On my tablet sometimes your posts are hidden for some reason.

[quote='Drich' pid='818827' dateline='1418615695']The action is complete on the 'mother's' end. (God has done all He can do for a sentient being.) Now it is up to the child to push away the saving efforts of his parent.

For whatever reason, the child resists or refuses to be saved, because children sometimes do weird and irrational shit. The mother shrugs and walks away, allowing the child to be run down.

Is the mother no longer responsible for the safety of her child just because the child may protest her attempt to save him from mortal danger? Does the mother get to say "My child deserves it. I told him not to go out into the street"? Would that be the sentiment of a good person?

Additionally, is it not one of the highest, most noble and heroic and good acts, to go so far to save another's life as sacrificing your own existence?

Imagine a mother and father that has done everything they could to keep their kid from drugs and bad influences. Up roots the family to a better school/neighborhood, find suitable after school programs, tutors, and the like.. Then the kid turns 16 finds a BF who is into drugs and runs cross country with him...

Imagine a mother who runs out into the road to save her child, pushes the child to safety, while she takes the hit, then imagine the ungrateful turning right around and running back into the road.

In either situation is a parent of either of these children expected to go the extra mile and put themselves in harms way again and again?

Now imagine the same parents same situation, but someone else's child... A child who hates the parents and wishes I'll on the parents of the children we are speaking of.

Christ Himself illustrates this division with the parable of the wheat and tares.
If your not aware a Tare looks just like a stalk of wheat up until it ripens. Instead of producing a golden eatable kernel a tare produces a black uneatable seed. In the parable a farmer sows good seed and his enemy sows tares along side the good seeds. When the plants grow it becomes appearent that some of the harvest are tares, but rather risking up rooting the wheat alongside the weeds, Jesus says the farmer lets them grow together only to be seperated at the harvest.

Here the point: just because you grow along side wheat doesn't make you wheat./doesn't make you one of God's children.

why should God care about what happens to those who do not belong to Him especially when caring for those who hate Him and His followers will disrupt what God wants for those who belong to Him?

I dunno, love thy neighbor, turn the other cheek, etc.?

which is second to Love your Lord God with all your being. One can not hold to one and ignore the other greatest command, and still expect to be in God's Grace.

A being which would let a person suffer or die just because that person doesn't love them isn't a being that deserves the presumptive title of "ultimate good". That kind of being is just a petty bastard who favors sycophancy.

So if a dozen hard core ISIS members wanted you and your family to put them up for a couple of months you'd be good with that?

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You guys are really hard to keep up with. Changing definitions on the fly is very tough to follow.

I thought the father, son and holy ghost were one deity. Are you now saying that there are three?

How many national governments does the United states have governing the country's affairs?
1
How many branches of the one government does the government have?
Executive
Judicial
Legislative
(3)

How many Gods are there?
1
Of the one God how many individuals?
Father
Son
Holy Spirit.
(3)

What is so hard about that?

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What is your belief on who Jesus is? Is he god, as most Christians define him, or a separate being from god?

Again God is a title not a name.

God the Father
God the Son
God the Holy Spirit.

Three indivisuals
Father
Son
Holy Spirit

All share one title "God."