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[Drich]

That's falsely equivocating. To make the child older is to put humans and God on the same level. Compared to your God, we have the intelligence and capabilities of an infant or small toddler.

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Like I said, kids do crazy and irrational things sometimes. That would still change nothing for me. My father hates me. He has been pretty awful to me over the course of my life and has shut me out because of our differences, but in spite of all the anger and hurt I feel towards him, I still love him and want nothing but the best for him. Why can't God be like me? Am I wrong to not reciprocate his behavior?

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I would, absolutely. I would sacrifice my life for my child, without question or complaint, and I would never put my child in debt as a result of it. It's my kid.

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For this metaphor to work, you have to admit that God is not my creator.

God only created one man, from him produced one woman, everyone else is a reproduction of what God orginally created. In order to be considered to be apart of the "family" of God, one must elect to be apart of it as per the gospel.

That said I don't have a say in whether or not you are or aren't apart of God's family. That is between you and God.

I would like to think that I would risk my life to save anybody from imminent danger. That, to me, represents optimal goodness, a standard to which I should strive to achieve. I would do it to save your life, or GC's life, or Waldorf's life. I would do it to save just about anybody, or at least, I hope I would have that courage to act according to my convictions when it really mattered. I would never intentionally stand by and refuse to save anybody just because they didn't like me. As far as I'm concerned, you can't get much more evil than that.

as per John 3:16 the oppertuity for salvation has been provided for anyone who will accept it.

which is second to Love your Lord God with all your being. One can not hold to one and ignore the other greatest command, and still expect to be in God's Grace.

That answer is not relevant to the question.

Actually it is.

Your answer to my question "why would God care about those who do not belong to Him?"

You answered with the second of the two greatest commands.
'Love your neighbor, or turn the other cheek.'

My response was you can't hold to the second of the greatest commands and ignore the first. (Love your Lord God with all your being.)

(Your answer does not apply if you do not abide by the greatest command.)

If God is the ultimate standard of goodness, why does he expect us to treat our enemies better than he treats his? That sounds paradoxical; we are expected to literally be better than perfect.

God does not say we are to treat our enemies as sons and daughters. This is what you want God to do.

So if a dozen hard core ISIS members wanted you and your family to put them up for a couple of months you'd be good with that?

Why is it that whenever I ask why God can't or doesn't do something, instead of answering the question, you ask why I can't or don't? Am I on God's level, with God's capabilities? Should as much be expected of me as of a being far more capable than myself?

what capabilities do you speak of? What can God do here that you can't? Change the minds/wills of others?

If we are to be left with our wills intact, then we must understand that there will be those who want to be with God, and those who do not. If one does not then why should God force that person to be a slave.

You always love to say that you are happy to answer questions about your God, but you sure aren't answering any of mine. Can it be that you are afraid of what the answers imply?

I fear nothing concerning answering question pertaining to God/what I know of Him.
I ask you questions because the answers to your questions are indeed found in the very same nature you share with God. (As man was created in His image, and you are a copy/reproduction of that man.) Meaning we share emotion, core values, and feelings. I ask these questions to tap into these core values/feelings, like the preservation of you and your family. The desire to keep you and yours safe from those who wish you or your harm.

God has already done this (seperate his from those who wish Him or His ill) when lucifer and 1/3 of the angel population was cast out. Jesus speaks of the comming seperation in several different parables. Wheat weeds, sheep goats, wheat chaff ect..

I asked you about keeping ISIS members with your family would be akin of God dragging people into heaven who has no wish of serving Him or with those who truly wish and serve Him For eternity. Eternity is a long time to do anything. IF you hate doing something IMagine doing it for eternity for a boss you hate. How long before you go all ISIS on your supervisor?

So that beggs the question. Why would God put a potential time bomb in with His family?

He wouldn't no more than you would... Just look at the lengths you were claiming to go for your family in the beginning of this post. God went further/the cross.

I might be presumptuous in saying so, but I think if your going to do whatever it takes to save your kid this would include keeping terrorist/time bombs away from those you love.

Why would you think God who has already gone the extra mile not go the extra mile in protecting those who belong to Him?[/quote]

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How many national governments does the United states have governing the country's affairs?
1
How many branches of the one government does the government have?
Executive
Judicial
Legislative
(3)

How many Gods are there?
1
Of the one God how many individuals?
Father
Son
Holy Spirit.
(3)

What is so hard about that?

How many branches of the one government does the government have?
Executive - 1
Judicial - 9
Legislative - 435+100+5+1=546
(556)

Of the one God how many individuals?
Father - I assume one
Son - I assume one, but then you got the Judicial branch wrong.
Holy Spirit. - I assume one, but then you got the Legislative branch wrong.
(3)

OK. I got this now. There are three separate gods that together belong to the god government. The father is the pres, the son is the court and the spirit is the law.

Strawman:

I specifically spoke to the branches of goverment not the indivisuals makes up those branches. The analogy I used spoke to title and governing authority. If you wish to have a honest discussion then stick to what was written.

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How many branches of the one government does the government have?
Executive - 1
Judicial - 9
Legislative - 435+100+5+1=546
(556)

Of the one God how many individuals?
Father - I assume one
Son - I assume one, but then you got the Judicial branch wrong.
Holy Spirit. - I assume one, but then you got the Legislative branch wrong.
(3)

OK. I got this now. There are three separate gods that together belong to the god government. The father is the pres, the son is the court and the spirit is the law.

When all 3 combine they form voltron.. sorry sorry i mean godtron.. no no wait wait i got it this time god.

I knew there was something wrong with you from your first post. Now I know what it is... Your a voltronII guy. (The only voltron where thier was three robots.)