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Whats so offensive about Christianity
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity
(December 18, 2014 at 10:46 am)Drich Wrote:
(December 18, 2014 at 10:28 am)FatAndFaithless Wrote: Oh I understand, Drips. God is the standard of righteousness, and there's no way we can live up to it. We're "fallen" and must redeem ourselves through faith.

That's precisely what's disgusting.

why?

I am going to try to put into words why that particular doctrine is so offensive.

First, you have the supposedly perfect being who is so perfect that he won't let anyone less then perfect in his presence. Or so he claims. The angels apparently weren't perfect and they live with him.

He makes humans with faults and tells them that they aren't good enough for his presence. That wouldn't be so bad if he didn't doom people to a place of misery forever for simply being as he made them

God's offer of salvation involved the rather ludicrous death of another human being. Why would a deity need to kill someone to do what the all powerful being wanted? Is god bound by rules? If so, he is not all powerful

Suicide by Roman aside, are you perfect, Drich? Do you think you will go to heaven? If you believe that you are saved then you probably believe that if you died right this instance you will be in heaven. Yet, you aren't perfect now so how can you be in god's presence? Don't you see that doesn't make sense?
He then

(December 18, 2014 at 11:12 am)Drich Wrote:
(December 18, 2014 at 11:09 am)Elskidor Wrote: You can just goggle bible contradictions and find pages with lists a mile long.

I have and can go through that same list and refute most of them with a simple lexicon. "The google list" is predicated on the idea that the bible was orginally written in english, so a english to english compareson is all that is ever done to identify a supposed contradiction.

What else you got?

(December 18, 2014 at 11:11 am)robvalue Wrote: Are we gonna have a tap dance around the contradictions? Haven't had one of those for a while.


Start a new thread if you want to go a few rounds.

If god is real and all powerful and knows the future, he couldn't have invented a book that would have no contradictions no matter what language it was translated.
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Whats so offensive about Christianity - by strawdawg - December 18, 2014 at 9:21 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Alex K - December 18, 2014 at 9:29 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Alex K - December 18, 2014 at 9:32 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by vorlon13 - December 18, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Jackalope - December 20, 2014 at 2:48 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by abaris - December 18, 2014 at 9:33 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Natachan - December 18, 2014 at 9:39 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Alex K - December 18, 2014 at 9:42 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 9:42 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by JonDarbyXIII - December 18, 2014 at 9:53 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 10:17 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Cyberman - December 18, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Elskidor - December 18, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 10:27 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Nope - December 18, 2014 at 11:15 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Alex K - December 18, 2014 at 10:57 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Spooky - December 18, 2014 at 11:02 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 11:05 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2014 at 11:06 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Spooky - December 18, 2014 at 11:46 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 12:08 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2014 at 12:14 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by abaris - December 18, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by vorlon13 - December 18, 2014 at 12:47 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 11:10 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 11:07 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Elskidor - December 18, 2014 at 11:09 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2014 at 11:11 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 11:18 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2014 at 11:19 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2014 at 11:27 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Minimalist - December 18, 2014 at 11:57 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 12:18 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Spooky - December 18, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Elskidor - December 18, 2014 at 12:20 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2014 at 12:22 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Minimalist - December 18, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 18, 2014 at 12:39 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 12:53 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by abaris - December 18, 2014 at 1:06 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2014 at 12:35 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Minimalist - December 18, 2014 at 12:38 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Simon Moon - December 18, 2014 at 12:41 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Minimalist - December 18, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by FatAndFaithless - December 18, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 1:20 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Spooky - December 18, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by KevinM1 - December 18, 2014 at 2:05 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Grand Nudger - December 18, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by KevinM1 - December 18, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Alex K - December 18, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by KevinM1 - December 18, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 1:09 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 18, 2014 at 1:16 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by KevinM1 - December 18, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Spooky - December 18, 2014 at 1:17 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Alex K - December 18, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 18, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by JonDarbyXIII - December 18, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 18, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Cyberman - December 18, 2014 at 3:20 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 18, 2014 at 3:26 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Valkyrie - December 18, 2014 at 3:29 pm
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Thumpalumpacus - December 18, 2014 at 1:18 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Thumpalumpacus - December 18, 2014 at 1:27 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Alex K - December 18, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 18, 2014 at 1:31 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Alex K - December 18, 2014 at 1:38 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Thumpalumpacus - December 18, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Elskidor - December 18, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 19, 2014 at 10:09 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Strider - December 19, 2014 at 10:30 am
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 19, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Strider - December 19, 2014 at 11:26 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Chas - December 18, 2014 at 2:08 pm
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Valkyrie - December 18, 2014 at 2:15 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 18, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Valkyrie - December 18, 2014 at 2:34 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Elskidor - December 18, 2014 at 2:20 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Elskidor - December 18, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Spooky - December 18, 2014 at 4:01 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Cyberman - December 18, 2014 at 4:10 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Valkyrie - December 18, 2014 at 4:27 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Cyberman - December 18, 2014 at 4:30 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Valkyrie - December 18, 2014 at 4:38 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Elskidor - December 18, 2014 at 4:49 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Valkyrie - December 18, 2014 at 4:51 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Cyberman - December 18, 2014 at 4:49 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Cyberman - December 18, 2014 at 4:53 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by vorlon13 - December 18, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Valkyrie - December 18, 2014 at 4:59 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by JonDarbyXIII - December 18, 2014 at 5:39 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Valkyrie - December 18, 2014 at 5:48 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by JonDarbyXIII - December 19, 2014 at 9:07 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 18, 2014 at 5:13 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by The Valkyrie - December 18, 2014 at 5:21 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by vorlon13 - December 18, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 19, 2014 at 9:19 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Tonus - December 19, 2014 at 9:25 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 19, 2014 at 10:51 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 19, 2014 at 10:55 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Tonus - December 19, 2014 at 11:14 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 19, 2014 at 9:34 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by JonDarbyXIII - December 19, 2014 at 9:49 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 19, 2014 at 11:35 am
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 19, 2014 at 11:39 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Thackerie - December 19, 2014 at 1:35 pm
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 19, 2014 at 12:22 pm
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 19, 2014 at 1:53 pm
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 19, 2014 at 12:32 pm
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 19, 2014 at 4:34 pm
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Tonus - December 19, 2014 at 5:51 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Thumpalumpacus - December 20, 2014 at 3:09 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 20, 2014 at 1:40 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Silver - December 20, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 20, 2014 at 1:49 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Cato - December 20, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Minimalist - December 19, 2014 at 4:56 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 19, 2014 at 4:57 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 20, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 19, 2014 at 4:57 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 19, 2014 at 5:22 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Strider - December 19, 2014 at 5:58 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 20, 2014 at 1:26 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by CapnAwesome - December 19, 2014 at 6:20 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 20, 2014 at 3:52 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Thumpalumpacus - December 20, 2014 at 4:23 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Silver - December 20, 2014 at 1:38 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 20, 2014 at 1:44 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Cato - December 20, 2014 at 1:41 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 20, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Cato - December 20, 2014 at 1:55 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 20, 2014 at 2:21 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Silver - December 20, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Thumpalumpacus - December 21, 2014 at 3:39 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by dyresand - December 21, 2014 at 3:46 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 21, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Spooky - December 21, 2014 at 10:39 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Tonus - December 21, 2014 at 1:13 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by C4RM5 - December 20, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Silver - December 20, 2014 at 1:49 pm
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 20, 2014 at 1:52 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 20, 2014 at 2:35 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Silver - December 20, 2014 at 2:37 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by robvalue - December 20, 2014 at 2:38 pm
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 21, 2014 at 10:06 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Natachan - December 20, 2014 at 8:34 pm
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Thumpalumpacus - December 21, 2014 at 5:08 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by abaris - December 21, 2014 at 5:25 am
RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by ManMachine - December 21, 2014 at 5:31 am
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RE: Whats so offensive about Christianity - by Drich - December 21, 2014 at 10:54 am
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