girlish girls, manly men.

[John V]

It should give you pause that your enlightened picture is so simplistic compared to what science says about the topic.

That's not the case. Real men work out. Science has shown that exercise helps to fight depression. This shouldn't be controversial. Most people on this board for some reason pay lip service to scientifically proven natural methods while worshiping prescription drugs.

I'm sorry to hear that,

Don't be. I don't regret the past. I move on to the future.

and it's great that it's working for you now, but others are not so lucky,

It's not about luck.

and it's decidedly not because they don't have the balls like you or whatever.

So you don't know why they're still suffering, but you're sure that nothing I say can help them. Goit it!

But then what precisely was your point bringing it up? What is the argument you were trying to make?

As noted, that a fairly mainstream site gives ten natural ways to combat depression, and five of those things are also things a real man would do.