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I thought that the only thing christian means anymore is worshipping the bible. If not, what the hell is it?

Catholics aren't theists? What's going on! I'm pretty sure they are. I can't keep up with these crazy labels.

Yes it is defined that way by the self proclaimed Christians, and they will read the bible without end.

My point is that Catholics are not Christians because they do not, and are never encouraged to read the bible. In fact they are only given small portions of it much like the poor man eating the scraps that the rich man threw out.

But Catholics do have a bible that is means to collect dust as a silent reminder that to dust they will return. It is kind of like, but then just opposite to the eternal flame burning in Church.

Labels are protestant theology designed to set them apart each with a salvation recipe of their own, that according to each one of them is brewed by design and requires compliance and money to belong.

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Oh sorry, but Catholics are Catholics and not Christian. That is just protestant theology who want to be king in the hereafter also, and have been declaring that ever since.

Ever read Macbeth? He will show you how that is done, but then, so did Moses and Billy Graham along with another 20,000 like him much in the same way.

The point here is that you just cannot part the water to get into the promised land but walk on it so you will know what the promised land is like when you get there. Does that make sense to you?

Welcome, Lambert.

Funny, but it's usually Protestants telling us that Catholics aren't Christians, and Catholics telling us they are.

Yes you are right. That is true in America only and is much like red paint on the door to tell those wolves that they are already OK and try the neighbor maybe.

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Fair enough, just so you know, where I come from Baptism was done inside the first week for sure.

It is also true that where I was born everybody was Catholic that so was a tradition for the sake of tradition, I suppose, with never a wolf in sheep's clothing suggesting that there is a different point of view.

Where in Europe are you from?

Nono, no Catholic is Christian. Christian is a protestant idea.
Catholicism is the NT equivalent of OT Judaism and neither are Christian. From here it can be said that once a Jew becomes a Christian he is no longer Jew and in the same way a Catholic will no longer be a Catholic but will be Christian instead. This so makes Christian the end of religion for both Jew and Catholic in Christendom.

To note here that neither Jews nor Catholics are saved-sinners but all so called Christians are, and will remain torn in this paradox until they die and will die nonetheless.

errr... wrong!
Take orthodox christians as an example of pre-protestant christians.
Also, catholics ARE christians.

A Christian (About this sound pronunciation (help·info)) is a person who adheres to Christianity, an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. "Christian" derives from the Koine Greek word Christós (Χριστός), a translation of the Biblical Hebrew term mashiach.[1]

Sorry Orthodox Christians? Pre-protestant Christians?

Orthodoxy is without paradox as that is what orthodox means . . . to say that they are not saved-sinner for sure.

Christian is without paradox as that is what Christian means = freedom from the law of slavery to sin.

That must have been a protestant Wiki, you think?

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About as much sense as Simplemoss' opinions on who can and can't be a racist.

Sorry about that, just putting in time. Stay tuned if you like.

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I see, thanks

Lol fuck me it's getting so ridiculous. It's starting to sound like the restrictions on re rolling a character in d&d or something.

Oops, address the argument please.