[split] Hello everyone

[Chili]

Fair enough, just so you know, where I come from Baptism was done inside the first week for sure.

It is also true that where I was born everybody was Catholic that so was a tradition for the sake of tradition, I suppose, with never a wolf in sheep's clothing suggesting that there is a different point of view.

Where in Europe are you from?

Nono, no Catholic is Christian. Christian is a protestant idea.
Catholicism is the NT equivalent of OT Judaism and neither are Christian. From here it can be said that once a Jew becomes a Christian he is no longer Jew and in the same way a Catholic will no longer be a Catholic but will be Christian instead. This so makes Christian the end of religion for both Jew and Catholic in Christendom.

To note here that neither Jews nor Catholics are saved-sinners but all so called Christians are, and will remain torn in this paradox until they die and will die nonetheless.

errr... wrong!
Take orthodox christians as an example of pre-protestant christians.
Also, catholics ARE christians.

A Christian (About this sound pronunciation (help·info)) is a person who adheres to Christianity, an Abrahamic, monotheistic religion based on the life and teachings of Jesus of Nazareth. "Christian" derives from the Koine Greek word Christós (Χριστός), a translation of the Biblical Hebrew term mashiach.[1]

For what it is worth, the error in your Wiki thing here is that there is a difference between Jesus of Nazareth and "Jesus out of Egypt called" who made a pit-stop in Nazareth so he can be called a Nazorean, but actually was not. This here is where Orthodoxy must do it's thing on its own in the believer, and that very well means no evangelist yanking away.

And do you see the difference here? If you do not see this let me add that John had a camelhair coat as not a true Nazarite in Matthew and Mark but not in Luke and in John. You can so call this John a 'one night stand' evangelist (so you can relate to him), that we would call a protestant today simply because orthodoxy is not what called him to be.

So now 'who is who' here and who is Wiki talking about because the Jesus of Matthew and Mark was forsaken on the cross and goes back to Galilee again in the end, and that translates into hell on earth as opposite to Luke and John where he does go to heaven instead.

Not that it matters to me, but it is a good idea to never put your Sunday suit on when reading the bible so that critical thinking can be part of it when you do. This in turn is where and why PhD's are the most handicapped of them all . . . and that in turn is why the saints in heaven are entertained by the folly of Christians below, so they claim.

So do you ever see prots proclaiming that Matthew and Mark's Jesus goes to hell?