(July 27, 2010 at 7:43 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: 1. theists aren't claiming existence - atheists are claiming the opposite and trying to hang the accusation where it wasn't claimed. It's nothing more than a distraction.
2. agnostic atheism may be strictly rational - given 'rational' is then defined as strictly observable. To be comprehensively correct you can only say that agnosticism is actually rational. Atheism alone has no convincing argument, as theism doesn't.
You do have a good point fr0d0. My wife is a christian and she always emphasises that she makes no claims, that it's just her faith, and that as a result there's nothing to justify or prove. She's not making any positive claims at all, that is understood by the word itself, faith, and indeed faith with evidence is not faith.