RE: WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER...
January 2, 2015 at 3:44 am
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2015 at 3:45 am by Whateverist.)
Not sure what you want to talk about here, Ron. The Michael Brown case or the idea that atheism and secularism will lead to a less moral world. I'll assume the latter.
I don't think any fair minded person with more than a casual grasp of western history would want to make the case that life over the last 2000 years has been a moral golden age. When violence hasn't been perpetrated by the church itself it has been waged regardless of what little difference the church has made. Apart from the availability of weapons which can turn any goof ball into a big time killer, we are probably safer now than people have been in the past 2000 years. Perhaps there are more unhinged individuals who lack social mooring and therefore weapon up and shoot up schools. But at least we don't live in times when other nation states think seriously of taking you over, killing your women and children and moving in.
Also, you can't lump Islam together with atheism. Allah and Jehovah are cut from the same cloth, and both Christians and Muslims have been eager to martyr themselves for a 'higher' cause. Witness the killing of abortion doctors by xtian crazies.
I don't think any fair minded person with more than a casual grasp of western history would want to make the case that life over the last 2000 years has been a moral golden age. When violence hasn't been perpetrated by the church itself it has been waged regardless of what little difference the church has made. Apart from the availability of weapons which can turn any goof ball into a big time killer, we are probably safer now than people have been in the past 2000 years. Perhaps there are more unhinged individuals who lack social mooring and therefore weapon up and shoot up schools. But at least we don't live in times when other nation states think seriously of taking you over, killing your women and children and moving in.
Also, you can't lump Islam together with atheism. Allah and Jehovah are cut from the same cloth, and both Christians and Muslims have been eager to martyr themselves for a 'higher' cause. Witness the killing of abortion doctors by xtian crazies.
