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[Fidel_Castronaut]

Ron, what are you actually arguing against here? Atheism? Secularism?

Consider for a second that often the most secular, least religious societies also tend to be some of the most prosperous financially and socially, and also the happiest.

I don't see any evidence that religious people are 'more' moral than non-religious people. Put your average atheist next to your average theist and you'll struggle to find a difference for day to day behaviour.

Also we need to remember that secularism is a christian construct that attempts to create fairness and equality of (non)-beliefs in the public realm. To date it is the only effective and efficacious method of creating a system that incorporates all (non)-beliefs. We need to consider that if Christianity is dying in terms of membership in states that employ a secular political paradigm for governmental structures (and the evidence points to this being true, at least in Europe), then the problem lies with Christianity itself and not the system it helped to create. Religions thrive on trying to convert people to accepting and believing it. It is not the fault of atheists or secularists that this Is not happening to the degree it was, I don't think.