RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 2, 2015 at 3:50 pm
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2015 at 4:01 pm by robvalue.)
This is the rebuttal I like:
We notice design by comparing it to non-design. We recognise a watch in a forest as designed because it never occurs in nature, as opposed to all the plants around it, which do occur in nature. So it's reasonable to conclude the watch is designed, as we also have experience of them being designed.
With the universe, we don't have anything to compare it to. What would a "non designed" universe look like, if not like this?
Also, we have excellent scientific explanations back almost to the Big Bang. I can't remember where I heard it, but some reliable guy said that even if some "God" designed the singularity, that God couldn't predict how it would have played out. And there's no evidence any God has interfered since then. So no design today, or at least no reason to think there is design.
We notice design by comparing it to non-design. We recognise a watch in a forest as designed because it never occurs in nature, as opposed to all the plants around it, which do occur in nature. So it's reasonable to conclude the watch is designed, as we also have experience of them being designed.
With the universe, we don't have anything to compare it to. What would a "non designed" universe look like, if not like this?
Also, we have excellent scientific explanations back almost to the Big Bang. I can't remember where I heard it, but some reliable guy said that even if some "God" designed the singularity, that God couldn't predict how it would have played out. And there's no evidence any God has interfered since then. So no design today, or at least no reason to think there is design.
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