@Ryantology
Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
And I wouldn't kill the poachers if I thought there was an alternative.
But from what I see, humanity, particularly technological western humanity, is so proud of itself being human that it fails to see the needless suffering it is causing in others. Much less does it alter its actions to avoid such suffering. We've expanded into ecosystems across the globe, squeezing out not only our direct competitors, but the thousands of species not considered profitable for humans. Building the American midwest into a mono-culture of GMO corn to make alcohol to burn in SUVs, killing any and everything which gets in our way and feeling righteously justified in the process is obscene. Collectively we fail to see this or we'd be more active in finding alternatives. I advocate family planning in hopes of diminishing population density to a level where we are not obligated to appropriate, kill and eat everything we see. I doubt it will work despite the claims of the demographers that human population will top out in the near future. I'll believe that when I see it. There are too many people who are in love only with people.
Creed apparently fails to recognize status for any non-humans. This chauvinism makes me sad. If he has a solution to theory of mind vs actually experiencing the internal reality of other humans, I'd like to hear it. I do not believe that denying self awareness in non-humans can be supported if other humans are granted the same. My empathy extends to dogs, chimps, whales and even cows. If an individual appears to be writhing in pain, I'm willing to accept that they actually are in pain. Creed is a little over the top which I recognize is an effect of the anonymity of the interwebs. I don't know if Creed is actually as simple as his posts appear.
"You're just sick!" is not a reasoned response.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply.
And I wouldn't kill the poachers if I thought there was an alternative.
But from what I see, humanity, particularly technological western humanity, is so proud of itself being human that it fails to see the needless suffering it is causing in others. Much less does it alter its actions to avoid such suffering. We've expanded into ecosystems across the globe, squeezing out not only our direct competitors, but the thousands of species not considered profitable for humans. Building the American midwest into a mono-culture of GMO corn to make alcohol to burn in SUVs, killing any and everything which gets in our way and feeling righteously justified in the process is obscene. Collectively we fail to see this or we'd be more active in finding alternatives. I advocate family planning in hopes of diminishing population density to a level where we are not obligated to appropriate, kill and eat everything we see. I doubt it will work despite the claims of the demographers that human population will top out in the near future. I'll believe that when I see it. There are too many people who are in love only with people.
Creed apparently fails to recognize status for any non-humans. This chauvinism makes me sad. If he has a solution to theory of mind vs actually experiencing the internal reality of other humans, I'd like to hear it. I do not believe that denying self awareness in non-humans can be supported if other humans are granted the same. My empathy extends to dogs, chimps, whales and even cows. If an individual appears to be writhing in pain, I'm willing to accept that they actually are in pain. Creed is a little over the top which I recognize is an effect of the anonymity of the interwebs. I don't know if Creed is actually as simple as his posts appear.
"You're just sick!" is not a reasoned response.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? 
