RE: WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER...
January 5, 2015 at 12:09 pm
(This post was last modified: January 5, 2015 at 12:14 pm by Mister Agenda.)
(January 3, 2015 at 4:08 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:(January 3, 2015 at 3:54 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Increased secularism isn't state atheism...
My point is, if you're going to make a case against religion by stating
"the most secular, least religious societies also tend to be some of the most prosperous financially and socially, and also the happiest."
then look at the Societies/governments that removed religion completely, and you would see that they tended to be hellholes , making that statement utter nonsense.
Societies that are free to live how they please and treated fairly (no injustice/corruption) are the happiest.
By that reasoning, we should examine religion under the light of it being imposed by the State, and guess what those countries are like.
How hard do we have to agree with you that state-imposed atheism is a bad idea for you to remove the stick from your ass?
(January 3, 2015 at 8:01 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: So the point I was making was a societies happiness had nothing to do with secularism vs religion, but freedom of choice.
My point
Except that the communist countries you cited weren't secular. Political secularism is government neutrality toward religion, and that includes not oppressing it as much as it includes not promoting it.
The purpose of secularism is to keep the government from infringing on people's religious freedom of choice.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.