RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 6, 2015 at 12:12 pm
(This post was last modified: January 6, 2015 at 12:24 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Pages and pages ago it was brought to your attention that you do not understand necessity or evolved systems. I see that hasn't changed. Your own examples....are examples of things which do not require intelligence. Computational systems (and the products of computational systems - such as simulations) -do not require intelligence for their existence or efficacy-. You've confused presence with necessity. If I indulge your fantasy, correlation with causation.
You think of computers as "something we create" rather than what they are, principles we -implement-. We're present, when a computer does work. We aren't the reason that it does work. We design the implementation - the architecture..but all of the architecture in the world doesn't mean shit without the principles that underlie it which are in no way indebted to us or any thinking thing for their existence - and the point of the architecture is to make the operation of the machine intelligible to us, to make it do work for us. It will do work regardless. Computers that we -do not make...not even at the architectural level- exist. Similarly, we are present when things evolve. That doesn't mean that our intelligence (or any intelligence) makes them evolve, or is required to create a system in which they can evolve...even if there are intelligent things floating around while they do so.
To put it even more simply. If a god exists..there's still no evidence that it had anything to do with evolution or the universe in which it operates......and there is no requirement for it to have anything to do with either. It can and does happen without interference from any god, any intelligence.
You think of computers as "something we create" rather than what they are, principles we -implement-. We're present, when a computer does work. We aren't the reason that it does work. We design the implementation - the architecture..but all of the architecture in the world doesn't mean shit without the principles that underlie it which are in no way indebted to us or any thinking thing for their existence - and the point of the architecture is to make the operation of the machine intelligible to us, to make it do work for us. It will do work regardless. Computers that we -do not make...not even at the architectural level- exist. Similarly, we are present when things evolve. That doesn't mean that our intelligence (or any intelligence) makes them evolve, or is required to create a system in which they can evolve...even if there are intelligent things floating around while they do so.
To put it even more simply. If a god exists..there's still no evidence that it had anything to do with evolution or the universe in which it operates......and there is no requirement for it to have anything to do with either. It can and does happen without interference from any god, any intelligence.
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