(January 8, 2015 at 1:42 am)paulpablo Wrote:(January 8, 2015 at 1:36 am)MysticKnight Wrote: The previous verse before that states those who turn on their backs you can kill them..then this verse states except for these people. ie. people who belong to a people you have allegiance with or people who don't want to fight you but rather want peace.
So it says basically there is no allowing you to kill people who leave Islam and don't want to fight you and are a peace with you.
Religion is part of their identity, but their motives are politically fueled more then religion.
Well you just said the majority of terrorists are political rather than religious, yet it sounds to me like Islam is a political movement aswell as religious, if it governs how to treat other civilizations and other people en mass rather than on a personal level.
A lot of the quran speaks of your people, their people, them and us, alliances, territory. Those issues are political.
The Quran does talk about political matters but it teaches words of peace and fighting only in self defense and only allowing you to kill those who kill or those who are destroying lives...therefore the problem is not what it teaches politically.
Also this us vs them is unfair of Quran. Quran had issues with a people who oppressed the believers but it didn't say to divide from rest of humanity and in fact talked about brotherhood of humanity in other verses and the unity of humanity in other verses and talked about generally being a friend to people.
It only forbid love to those who oppressed them, drove them out their homes and were ought to kill them.
It's unfair to say that Quran created this us vs them mentality.
