RE: Evidence??
January 9, 2015 at 7:40 pm
(This post was last modified: January 9, 2015 at 7:44 pm by Whateverist.)
(January 8, 2015 at 7:19 am)W.Smith Wrote: If we look past the issue of appearance when talking about God and instead use the word “God” just as a common dominator for all things that exists. What I mean by that is if we just use the word God to describe the existence of all things seem (and unseen, and because it is short) – What kind of proof would we need, to become convinced of the existence of God? ...What kind of proof would we need to convince us that there really is something (call it God!?) that holds everything “in” existence; that holds it all together? In other words, what would we need as evidence that God is real?
Why do you seek something to "hold it all in existence"? We can see or in some other way detect that which exists. We have no reason to think there is something else which holds it together, do we?
Perhaps you have in mind the strong nuclear force found within an atom? Must we also imagine something holding that force together, along with yet something else to then hold it together? Maybe existence isn't really a set of infinite Russian dolls, one within the other. Perhaps what we see is what we get.
Until you have a cogent reason to think otherwise, I'll leave you to ponder this non-problem on your own.
(January 8, 2015 at 8:10 am)W.Smith Wrote:(January 8, 2015 at 7:47 am)Brakeman Wrote: Is this a question of trying to use the existence of a vague wispy philosophical term of a god to support the want of existence for precisely described purported gods that every christian, muslim, and hindu swears to have a personal relationship with?
This is not about words, it is about pinpointing what kind of evidence we are looking for when we claim that there is not evidence of a God (or whatever you choose to call it)
It certainly isn't my job to describe to you the sort of evidence you are looking for. Hell, I don't really know what you mean by god anyway. All I'm saying is I haven't seen any evidence for whatever it is you have in mind. Why not just give us a description and show us what you have by way of evidence .. or I'll just go back to ignoring whatever it is.
