RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 13, 2015 at 11:16 am
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2015 at 12:12 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
(January 13, 2015 at 12:21 am)BlackMason Wrote: Dude, it's clear to me that you don't understand the difference between inductive reasoning and deductive reasoning. Deductive arguments are 100% certain and therefore valid. Inductive arguments are not. When I make an inductive argument you apply deductive criteria. This tells me you don't know what you're talking about.As I've already mentioned, my opinion is that your inductive argument is terminally weak for the very same reasons that a deductive argument along those lines is invalid. This isn't always the case between a deductive or an inductive argument along the same premises or leveraging similar statements..it just happens to be the case with your specific arguments. Calling an argument inductive doesn't make it any stronger. Deductive arguments, as I had hoped to show you with the example of shipwrecks, aren't always certain even when they are valid. They are only true insomuch as they are expressions of the consequences of a system which, we hope, adequately describes the relationships of this to that in a demonstrable manner. Both inductive and deductive arguments have conditions to meet if we are to assign any measure of confidence to them (which, rather amusingly, you implied was irrelevant). I have no confidence in your arguments - no matter how we structure them- and I've explained why.
IOW...your arguments have been considered exhaustively. We simply cannot get from here to there. Not by deductive reasoning, not by inductive reasoning. The statements you chose to make are required to have some relationship with each other that we can draw conclusions or convincing reason from - regardless of validity or soundness, regardless of structure-this must happen first. They do not. You -could- address that.......or, you could bitch and moan and call me a dum-dum. Up to you.
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Convinced? Of course you aren't. Deconstruct my argument for me, tell me why.
(I hope your instructor flunked you btw. If not, I'd be looking for a better instructor, or a more productive way to spend a year of my life)
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