(January 16, 2015 at 3:21 am)fr0d0 Wrote: And most Christians I know weren't nice people to start off with.I'm curious as to what that means. Most of the Christians I have known (and that would be most of the people I've known) range from decent people to some of the best people I have had the privilege to know. A few of them range from unpleasant to utter douchebags, but the latter I can count on the fingers of one hand. Not much different from the people of any other religion I know.
Some of them will tell of how religion changed their lives, but with very few exceptions we are talking about people who had some vices (as bad as drugs, and as mild as tobacco smoking) that they cleaned up after accepting Jesus as their savior. Those few exceptions would be people who were somewhat violent or on a path that was very likely to lead to bad consequences. But for the vast majority of people, who they were before they became Christian is who they were after.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
-Stephen Jay Gould
