(January 16, 2015 at 9:01 am)Tonus Wrote:(January 16, 2015 at 3:21 am)fr0d0 Wrote: And most Christians I know weren't nice people to start off with.I'm curious as to what that means. Most of the Christians I have known (and that would be most of the people I've known) range from decent people to some of the best people I have had the privilege to know. A few of them range from unpleasant to utter douchebags, but the latter I can count on the fingers of one hand. Not much different from the people of any other religion I know.
Some of them will tell of how religion changed their lives, but with very few exceptions we are talking about people who had some vices (as bad as drugs, and as mild as tobacco smoking) that they cleaned up after accepting Jesus as their savior. Those few exceptions would be people who were somewhat violent or on a path that was very likely to lead to bad consequences. But for the vast majority of people, who they were before they became Christian is who they were after.
Nice post Tonus. I guess I know a lot of genuine people too. Some who had turned their lives around. All old timers. Nothing I witnessed myself directly. I moved to a Pentecostal church where there were a lot of ambitious people. Yes I've also known some exceptionally well grounded and the most selfless and unfailingly charitable people. The non religious people I've known are just beautiful and living people. They can also fall foul to hate and delusion at times. I don't know but I love them more. Maybe it's down to the individual. Faith can have a falseness in that you can't fail perhaps. And we all fail. I feel that's sometimes not been an option, in my experience.
