RE: WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD ORDER...
January 17, 2015 at 1:19 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2015 at 2:44 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(January 17, 2015 at 8:27 am)downbeatplumb Wrote:(January 14, 2015 at 9:07 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Denmark is in fact NOT secular
http://www.trincoll.edu/depts/csrpl/rinv...enmark.htm
Did you even read all that link because it says Denmark is not only secular but staunchly secular.
Below was taken from the link you posted and directly contradicts your stance.
Quote:This has meant a sharpened articulation of the secular values modern Denmark celebrates: political freedom, freedom of expression (including the right to criticize and even also to ridicule religious and other “holy” texts and symbols), individualism (also within the family, for instance with respect to children’s rights), and every individual’s right to live according to one’s own individual preferences, sexual liberalism (including relaxed attitudes to homosexuality, to being “daringly dressed” in public, to pornography, etc.), and women’s rights and gender equality in all spheres of life.
Not only have these secular values become more clearly articulated than before, they are nowadays also launched, at times aggressively, as values that express the very essence of contemporary Danishness.
It doesn't contradict anything, it makes a clear distinction between the government and the citizens.
Quote:A good 80 percent of the population can be characterized as “secular” in the sense that religious practices do not play any part in their daily life.But we aren't discussing whether or not the "population" is secular were discussing if the Government is secular.
Quoted from the same link..
Quote: • According to the constitution (§ 54), the Lutheran-evangelic Church is the Danish People’s Church (“Folkekirke”), and is, as such, supported by the State, which means that the Lutheran-evangelic religion and its institutions and churches are given a favored place among religions in Danish society. All tax-paying citizens, regardless of their personal religious beliefs, thus contribute to the priests and bishops of the “Folkekirke.”http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Denmark
• Practically all citizens are automatically born as members of the “Folkekirke.” Not to be so demands that the citizens take the initiative to leave the church. At present 83 percent of the Danish population belong to the “Folkekirke.”
Quote:Of all the religions in Denmark, the most prominent is Christianity in the form of the Evangelical Lutheran Church of Denmark, the state religion. However, pockets of virtually all faiths can be found among the population. The second largest faith is Islam, due to immigration since 1980. In general, however, Danes are secular, and church attendance is generally lowSee? another distinction between the state and the population.
Also this link
http://www.humanityinaction.org/knowledg...s-mediator
Quote: Although there is freedom of religion, there is no equality of religion, as the state sponsors only one church – the Evangelical Lutheran Church called Folkekirken, the “People’s Church.” It receives some twelve percent of its income from the state, but its largest source of income is the church taxes paid by its members. Most Danes – 84.7 % in 2001 – are members of the church, yet very few of them actively participate in it.This means, everyone, regardless of religion supports the church through taxation. How is this secularism?
What is wrong with you guys? It is a FACT that the government of Denmark is not secular, yet you guys blatantly ignore those facts. Don't you guys claim to be logical and capable of critical thought?
Instead you guys show that you are just as fanatical as "fundies" when it comes to agreeing with fellow member of your "athiest church" despite the evidence proving otherwise.
You guys know full well if proof of God was presented to you, you'd reject it no matter what, the same way you reject Proof that Denmark isn't secular. This speak volumes of the psychology of an atheist, just as mentally unstable as any other fanatic, just under the umbrella of atheism instead of religion..
This is the only question you need answer.
Does separation of church and state exist in Denmark, yes or no?