RE: Creation/evolution3
January 17, 2015 at 1:42 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2015 at 1:48 pm by watchamadoodle.)
(January 16, 2015 at 11:30 pm)Drich Wrote:I don't understand that sentence in bold means. Maybe you can rephrase it? I do agree that Adam's lifespan could be measuring only those years after he left the Garden of Eden.(January 16, 2015 at 10:20 am)watchamadoodle Wrote: It seems like you are explaining how a literal reading of the 6000 year genealogy in Genesis could coexist with billions of years of evolution.I am pointing out how no time line between creation and the fall COULD have worked out.
(January 16, 2015 at 11:30 pm)Drich Wrote:O.k. So when homo-monkeyus mates with homo-gardenus, is the offspring in the image of God (i.e. having a soul)? You might be able to combine this idea with your belief in predestination. Those of us who can't seem to make Christianity work are simply soulless, biological robots - homo-monkeyus.(January 16, 2015 at 10:20 am)watchamadoodle Wrote: As Nope pointed-out human culture goes back further than 6000 years, so that is a problem.how so? Monkey man is human, (human descended from monkeys just like science says..) and existed outside the garden well before man made in the image of God was expelled from the garden.
(January 16, 2015 at 11:30 pm)Drich Wrote:O.k. so you're saying that many years after Adam and Eve left the Garden of Eden, it became a desert, and the spiritual beings were no longer needed to keep humans from returning?(January 16, 2015 at 10:20 am)watchamadoodle Wrote: Also, a literal reading of Genesis suggests that there is a garden of Eden somewhere on Earth guarded by four spiritual beings. There is no garden of Eden today, so you can't read that story literally. Why are you hung-up on reading the 6000 year genealogy literally when you can't read other parts of genesis literally.Who says there isn't a garden? If we literally look at Genesis we canes it is defined by 4 rivers, two of which we can identify today. When we look at a map we have an idea of how big and where the garden is.
Wake up and smell the coffee, Drich. If God exists, he can't expect you to lie to yourself IMO.
If you look there now on a map you will see a massive desert sitting on top of the garden. This also explains why there are have been no fossils ever found in that region and the reason for oil under that region (the bio mass needed to produce those millions upon trillions of barrels of oil) Again the explaination is as easy as there is no time line between the last day of creation and the fall. "The crazy explaination" is only needed when one wants to encorperate the faith they have in science.
Also I'm curious about the 7 days of creation described in Genesis 1. I suppose the man described in Genesis 1 is just the soulless homo-monkeyus? I don't see how you can read this literally, because paleontology says it took billions of years. Maybe if you imagine God moving at relativistic speeds, but why would he dictate a story for humans using times measured in a different reference frame from Earth?
I think the creation stories are much richer if you understand the context of the Near Eastern religious cosmology instead of trying to shoe-horn them into our current scientific cosmology.