RE: Determinism, Free Will and Paradox
January 17, 2015 at 2:40 pm
(This post was last modified: January 17, 2015 at 2:42 pm by Alex K.)
(January 17, 2015 at 1:35 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -except that QM is probabalistic, not "random". Isn't actually all that relevant to the discussion, since we're talking about creatures of a particular size at a particular level of interaction that is decidely -not- best modeled by reference to QM. Whatevers happening "down there" the picture is different "up here".
The minute someone says "but QM" I check out, bullshittery will follow. No offense, truly.
Trust me, I'm pretty down to earth when it comes to reality claims concerning QM. Of course I am deeply offended and consider blowing up something to avenge the quantum prophet.
But could you elaborate on your definitions of random and probabilistic and the difference between the two as applied to the problem at hand? I merely wanted to say that as far as we can observe, outcomes are not determined by the variables of the system currently known to us. That's absolute mainstream opinion. My shorthand: "apparently random". If that was not precise enough be my guest to introduce better terminology. But do you disagree with the statment itself?
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition