RE: Detecting design or intent in nature
January 18, 2015 at 4:55 pm
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2015 at 5:07 pm by helyott.)
(January 18, 2015 at 4:30 pm)Heywood Wrote:(January 18, 2015 at 4:22 pm)helyott Wrote: your point 2 is a implausible argument.
The aim of this argument is to prove that there is an architect.
Where is the architect ? A proof ?
Your argument is useless and needless.
I don't argue there is an architect. You argue this.
You must proove this bigot.
If point 2 is an implausible argument, falsify it by providing an example that is contrary to it. Just saying it is an implausible argument says nothing of substance.
(January 18, 2015 at 4:22 pm)helyott Wrote: whenever we observe an evolutionary system come into existence we always observe an intellect involved in that implementation... Have you some exemples of evolutionary system come into existence ? ? ? I mean real evolutionary systems... Not computer system or that kind of stuff that is an artificial création i want a evolutionary system with true living organism not created bye human kind ?
I guess it will be difficult to find.
Computer simulated evolution is real evolution as far as I am concerned. It simulates biological evolution by evolving variables encoded into a computer program.
But I have presented the game Chinese Whispers as an example of an evolutionary system which is not biological nor does it run on a computer(although Rhythm would say it does because to him essentially every bit of matter is computer).
Computer simulated evolution is real evolution of virtual animals.
As we are writing about true animals and true life your argument can't be accepted.
All the creation you are dealing with are artificial creations. Because you have 2 created creations who are artificial you can't argue that life is created by intelligence or planification.
I have an exemple of evolutionary system come into existence : The system we are living in and that we can modelize with computer. With a computer can you create a true living system in true life ? ? ? Nop.
You are a sophist.
On earth some artificial system with evolution inside can exist = is true.
This artificial system is made by man ( because a computer must be programmed ) = Is true.
Man is intelligent. I will say yes.. But...
All real living system is created by intelligent planification. False.
What you have "proved" is that we can create only artificial evoluting system nothing else.
Try another argument please.
If God is the answer to your question, it means that you have asked the wrong question.
A good question always ask how never why.
A good question always ask how never why.