RE: Determinism, Free Will and Paradox
January 18, 2015 at 9:33 pm
(This post was last modified: January 18, 2015 at 9:43 pm by bennyboy.)
(January 18, 2015 at 8:39 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: I see no evidence that time is an illusion, that the future exists "somewhere" in a tunnel or the Universe's version of a motion picture book or whatever those were called.And what evidence do you see for the idea of philsophical determinism? The fact that every time you've gone back in time, things played out the same way again and again? No. It is because you cannot imagine a mechanism for free will that you discard it and choose determinism as the source of human activity. It's an argument from incredulity, and it implies determinism, so here we are.
You are content to claim that current state arises out of past states which do not exist. And yet, you are not willing to contend that the current state arises out of a need to reach a future state, which also does not exist (according to you). The past and future state, in determinism, are equally sure, equally-well defined, and equally identified with the current moment. So why this past-time bias? Why are you so sure that this "arrow of time" is something the universe is DOING, rather than just a change in perspective?
(January 18, 2015 at 9:21 pm)Davka Wrote: There's definitely something going on. Sometimes i think the whole free will/determinism argument is a false dichotomy. But I have no idea what we might call a third alternative, or how we would determine what it was.If we accept that paradox is one of the building-blocks of the universe, then you can just call the third alternative yin/yang. How about: "free determinism"?
