RE: Creation/evolution3
January 19, 2015 at 2:56 am
(This post was last modified: January 19, 2015 at 2:59 am by Drich.)
(January 18, 2015 at 11:37 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote:(January 18, 2015 at 7:33 pm)Drich Wrote: So to summarize your response here it a big nuh-huh? Is that the gist of everything? Just want to make sure before I respond.
I have relied upon your ability to read.
Apparently, my confidence was misplaced.
Respond as you will. Put cogent thoughts together and manufacture your argument, such as it is. But -- I'd suggest a couple of years of remedial English first, because quite frankly you aren't really qualified to read much beyond MacGuffey's Readers, so far as you've shown in the thread.
You've listed no references cited no support material, you simple opose what I have said.. Hence the "nuh-uh."
Since my request for clarity/specifics has only generated ad hoc attacks, I guess our conversation is at an end.
However if you wish to continue then I ask that you clarify all of the broad brush answers you gave. Otherwise find someone else to play your game.
(January 18, 2015 at 8:20 pm)Davka Wrote:this is a dishonest rebuttal of your initial assessment. Everything I said in my last post hinged on yours, and now it seems you have moved the goal posts.(January 18, 2015 at 4:25 pm)Drich Wrote: One could force that square peg into my situation if the only thing that has ever happened to me was bad. However I clearly share many many impossible good things that happen as well. Which completely destroys your assumptions.
Nope.
Not even close. Lots of good things happen to all sorts of people. End-of-the-rope testimonies aren't the only kind of testimony, but they're very common.
And I didn't write any assumptions. I wrote what I suspect about a lot - not all - of born-again conversions. My conversion wasn't bottom-of-the-barrel exactly, but the first year or two afterwards i was convinced that i was being led by god, and that all the good things in my life were a result of that.
In retrospect, there were a few pretty noteworthy coincidences. But nothing even approaching the status of a miracle, or an "impossible" good thing.
(You said my faith was the result of prolonged hardship, and now somehow the opposite is true.) what does it say about your position if you have to keep switching sides?
Quote:That's not true. Certain aspects of love (Eros/storge) do indeed have clear triggers and chemical changes, but not all. Agape and phila are a choice and not a feeling.
Agape and phila - the parts where you feel things - are simply biochemical impulses in our brains, triggered by our decisions & actions. The choice itself is the result of a thought process - more biochemical impulses. All emotions, all human impulses, all choices and thoughts and irrational sensations - everything we experience is perfectly explainable in terms of physical phenomena. No paranormal or supernatural explanations are needed.
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Again agape and phila are not feelings, try again.