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You're not serious?
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RE: You're not serious?
One big 'No True Scotsman' fallacy. She claims:

1. Islam is really tolerant, progressive & inclusive
2. Those who are intolerant, unprogressive and/or exclusive aren't practicing real Islam, instead they're using their religion as an excuse for their 'innate' intolerance, bigotry and/or predjudice.
3. Any claim that Islam can be intolerant, unprogressive and/or exclusive is alienating to tolerant muslims, creates marginalisation and institutionalises islamophobia thus leading people to misunderstand/perceive Islam as intolerant etc when it's not.

This is all complete nonsense:

1. There are many valid (i.e. supported by the Qur'an/Hadiths) interpretations of Islam, some more tolerant than others. I'm uncertain where the majority lie on the distribution chart but there will be nationalised differences compared to the world-wide demographics. Some valid interpretations are intolerant of the LGBTQIA+ community. In 'caucasian, christianised, western' nations, this fact is understood by the thinking majority.
2. Some muslims learn their intolerance, bigotry & predjudice from the Qur'an/Hadiths.
3. The fact that some people are intolerant of Islam is no justification for the intolerance shown by some muslims towards the LGBTQIA+ community.

Also her definition of islamophobia is equivalent to racism thus missing the point that the majority of intolerance of muslims, world-wide, comes from other muslims and not 'caucasian, christianised westerners'.

Her point regarding marginalisation would be interesting if it were true that 'christianised, caucasian' people were generally intolerant of muslims however instead we see, in the accused nations, that tolerant people are siding with other tolerant people, irrespective of race, religion etc., in opposition to intolerance of all kinds.
Sum ergo sum
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Messages In This Thread
You're not serious? - by Regina - January 20, 2015 at 11:16 am
RE: You're not serious? - by Alex K - January 20, 2015 at 11:21 am
RE: You're not serious? - by Norman Humann - January 20, 2015 at 11:31 am
RE: You're not serious? - by Regina - January 20, 2015 at 11:35 am
RE: You're not serious? - by Norman Humann - January 20, 2015 at 11:39 am
RE: You're not serious? - by Alex K - January 20, 2015 at 11:32 am
RE: You're not serious? - by CapnAwesome - January 20, 2015 at 1:29 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Regina - January 20, 2015 at 1:52 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Davka - January 20, 2015 at 11:53 am
RE: You're not serious? - by Alex K - January 20, 2015 at 11:55 am
RE: You're not serious? - by Ben Davis - January 20, 2015 at 12:17 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by FreeTony - January 20, 2015 at 1:15 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Davka - January 20, 2015 at 1:39 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Minimalist - January 20, 2015 at 1:35 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by robvalue - January 20, 2015 at 1:38 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by rexbeccarox - January 20, 2015 at 1:45 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Davka - January 20, 2015 at 1:53 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Alex K - January 20, 2015 at 3:48 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Norman Humann - January 20, 2015 at 3:50 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by CapnAwesome - January 20, 2015 at 4:04 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Cato - January 20, 2015 at 2:00 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Regina - January 20, 2015 at 2:04 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by FatAndFaithless - January 20, 2015 at 2:02 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Faith No More - January 20, 2015 at 2:13 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Cato - January 20, 2015 at 2:28 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Dystopia - January 20, 2015 at 2:52 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Davka - January 20, 2015 at 3:08 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Dystopia - January 20, 2015 at 3:12 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Norman Humann - January 20, 2015 at 3:15 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by dyresand - January 20, 2015 at 3:25 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by dyresand - January 20, 2015 at 4:02 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Regina - January 20, 2015 at 4:08 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by CapnAwesome - January 20, 2015 at 4:11 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Dystopia - January 20, 2015 at 4:14 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Regina - January 20, 2015 at 4:15 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Dystopia - January 20, 2015 at 4:17 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Regina - January 20, 2015 at 4:26 pm
RE: You're not serious? - by Dystopia - January 20, 2015 at 4:29 pm

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