Creation/evolution3

[Drich]

But in relative terms we are still talking a very small number of people during a very brief period of time. The difference in both is staggering.

Again I have introduced a metric that none of you want to consider. When the army's enter the deserts they have larger numbers than when they leave. in the case of the older army's a sizable reduction in numbers. This means vast amounts of equipment are left. where as with the Jews Everything was used up till nothing was left.

Yes their were larger numbers, but a smaller foot print because the jews could not afford to throw anything away.

Besides Rythm seems to be under the impression that we can use the magic of science and satalites to track 2000 year old paths off the silk road that were only used a couple dozen times in all of that time. So then how is it you can tell me were a well documented army went?

The answer is the desert consumes ALL!
You have no evidence of a 200 year old massive march across that desert for the same reason their is no evidence of a 3000 year old march across that same desert, because the DESERT CONSUMES ALL!

It has consumed whole cities! by your logic they never existed till they were found. How does that work?

And again we are talking about potentially millions of people staying in a region for decades.

3500+ Years Ago! Again we have little to nothing left over from a march 200 years ago in that same region, how is it you think that this very same place would perserve 3500 year old artifacts but destroy 200 year old artifacts?

The level of fastidiousness required to leave no traces is simply not reasonable.

Says a man who doesn't take in 3 1/2 thousand years of shifting sand or errosion.
again 200 years of shifting sand and errosion wiped out all traces of napeolian, who did not care about the resources he left in his wake, but a culture who used everything to the nub that lived three 3300 years earlier would somehow have their refuse perserved by the same sand and heat that destroys all other traces of the men who crossed it?

I don't think anyone knows the rate at which Alexander's army was leaving things behind, but we're talking about 30,000 men (and 12,000 casualties) moving as quick as they can for two months, versus possibly more than two million people (with almost that many casualties) roaming a region for almost forty years. You can't just chalk that up to good housekeeping.

As it has been pointed out the Jews would have to had camped in a given region for decades otherwise they would have died from exposure. so again the foot print is going to be very small compared to the vastness of the desert.

Again, not saying there is nothing left, what I am saying is their is very little left.

Yes! These people stayed in one place for generations upon generations.

Right- time is a factor that has to be considered.

who lived in perminate/semi perminate structures.

Right- distance traveled (or not traveled) has to be considered.

again a short trek that involved the loss of an entire army, tons of the supplies/wepons of war they carried. 3000 years AFTER Moses.

The loss of about half of his army, though even losing a full army and its supplies still isn't anywhere near the effect of hundreds of thousands of people roaming an area for decades. No settlements. No bones. No campfires. No altars. No pottery. Not even a bit of "Yahweh wuz here" graffiti etched into a clay tablet. That's just not possible.
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What in the way of a settlement are you looking for?
Animal bones would have been used, and fashioned into tools.
Human remains would have been dried/bones and carried to the final resting place (as was the custom upto Christ's day) lol, camp fires. What white people do when they build a camp fire is take fresh cut wood bun it, and in the morning pour water over the coals leaving the coals behind. (thus the evidence of camp fires)

What every other culture who has ever lived on the planet does is let the fire burn completely out, or in a time of rationing the smother out the flames with sand. Then when the coals cool, they gather up all the black coal. why? For the same reason White people buy Charrcoal briquetts. It is easier to light and to have a low burning very hot cooking flame.

You are using a current soceitial model on a soceity in which it does not apply. They only think you prove with a lack of camp fires is that OT Jews were not modern white people.

You do know the alters used were just loose rock right? In 3500 year is it your opinion that a loose rock alter would remain in place?

If you break a pot now you throw it away. What if you were supper poor and needed a knife or sharp edge of somekind and all you had was a broken pot? would you use the broken pot as your new sharp edge or would you still throw away your pot in search of a proper knife?

graffti: in a soceity who's only educated was priests and royality? seriously?

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How can you honestly contribute to a thread and not even read the OP?

The Whole point of this thread is to point out that Evolution can be assimilated into the creation account.

Or are you too dsylexic? If so my appologies brother.

The Garden was created as a perfect picture of the world at the time of the fall of man so Adam and Eve did not have to adapt. Everything outside the garden is whatever you need it to be/you believe science says it was.
In your world drich, are there one set of animals evolving outside of the garden, like evolution says and the garden has its own non evolving animals like the bible and creationist say?