(January 29, 2015 at 7:32 pm)watchamadoodle Wrote: Let me see if I understand. Imagine a pregnancy, where the doctor can perform an abortion to save the mother's life, or the doctor can do nothing and allow both mother and fetus to die.Oh, I so enjoy these lets speak to the exception and not the rule talks so much...
http://www.numberofabortions.com/
This is just a link to an abortion clock, just number and verfiable facts no pictures of baby-burgers/post abortion pics.
as of 11:30am EST 1.3 million baby burgers have been made this year. Are you saying that of those 1.3 million babies they were burgered to save the mother's life?
Your response is a perfect example of the 'Man's Morality' I speak of, and exacly why man tends to ascribe 'moral value to a given act' rather than to give his morality over to God to define.
Because when a given act is ascribed a moral value rather than letting God tell us what the Moral value is of an act, we can take it upon ourselves to justify or even cancel out the moral value of the act we want to do. Just by creating a situation of compareson to what we feel is a 'greater evil.' Where as God's word is unchanging and a sin is always and forever be a sin unless He says otherwise.
This is what you did with your abortion/saving the mother story.
You are attempting to justify the death of a child by saving the mother.
When killing a child is always wrong for us to do.
What would I do? Abort the baby. Save the mother. Repent. Move on.
That is what/Why Christ died on the cross. To free us from the law.
What if I got some girl pregnet when I was young? Dealt with it, married the girl try to make a life, even if it cost me my dreams.
What does the world say do? Kill the baby, keep the dreams alive.
That is why according to the clock 30,000 more babies have been turned into burger meat.
Quote:Are you saying that there is nothing inherently bad about death, but it is bad to break God's rules?without redemption yes.
Quote: Therefore the doctor should do nothing and allow both mother and fetus to die (rather than break God's rule about abortion to save the mother's life)? (Correct me if I misunderstand.)You stand corrected.
Most of you do not understand the fundementals of redemption and only see Sin and righteousness. Christ died to provide a third option and that is redemption.
Quote:I agree that nothing is inherently good or bad. I can see why a Christian might be tempted to use the Bible to define good and bad. Unfortunately the Bible isn't a law book, and it isn't consistent IMO.One could argue it is indeed a book of law. a law we will all be judged by at some point.