Idealism is more Rational than Materialism

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Idealism is more Rational than Materialism

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RE: Idealism is more Rational than Materialism

February 2, 2015 at 9:29 am

(February 2, 2015 at 9:21 am)robvalue Wrote: Well yes, that too I mainly meant the understanding of conciousness, whether it is a dualistic entity somewhere or just an illusion or whatever. As far as I know, anyone's guess is as good as anyone else's, but what evidence there is (or isn't) seems to point towards conciousness being an illusion, to me at least. I'm far from an expert so feel free to fill my gaps

consciousness can't be an illusion... consciousness is required for experience, you cannot doubt experience because to doubt you need experience. get it? "i think therefore I am." the one truth that can't be disputed.

I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with senses, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use and by some other means to give us knowledge which we can attain by them.
-Galileo

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Idealism is more Rational than Materialism - by Rational AKD - February 2, 2015 at 3:11 am

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