Idealism is more Rational than Materialism

[Rational AKD]

True, I don't feel the need to justify it, since the definition of consciousness is the possession of experience.

this still doesn't require material to have such a world you can experience...

Perhaps when you offer one example of consciousness that does not involve material entities with the capacity to experience their environment I will be compelled to qualify my statement further.

yes because one always uses physical examples in order to prove metaphysical concepts... you do know this is philosophy, not science right? science can't prove anything about the metaphysical, which means it can't prove materialism or idealism.

I never said we couldn't be. You just haven't provided any logical and evidential basis for the assertion that we are in a computer simulation or a dog's dream, and in any case, since we would never know unless the developer of our virtual simulation communicated it to us, it really makes no difference.

or you experience behavior similar to data processing within physical processes. but i'm not about to get into the idealism from quantum mechanics argument. the only thing I've said on this thread is idealism is more parsimonious and more reasonable to accept. we already must postulate the existence of consciousness, so why postulate other unnecessary substances?

Your "evidence," as others have pointed out, is nothing but the logical arguments for solipsism with an unverifiable ad hoc add-on to avoid its self-refuting conclusions.

what part of it is ad hoc? you simply can't make accusations without substantiating them or at least directing them so we know what you're talking about.

I'm also not aware of any minds that exist independent of material brains.

no you are not aware of any materials that exist independent of minds. all you have is mind, so you can't think of something without postulating mind. exactly what part of introspection implies materialism?

I am aware of material objects that possess no characteristics of mind

if that were true, then you shouldn't be fooled by hallucinations because they can't have any characteristics of matter...

and that have existed before any known conscious beings did.

how would you know? you can't verify anything beyond your perception which matter is beyond the scope of.

In fact, I am one. So are you. I am therefore justified to conclude that material objects lacking the property of mind are more fundamental and that brains and minds are a result of material productions.

"I am right because I am right" good argument... i'm impressed...

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I am not begging the question because the evidence is that matter exists whether anyone knows about it or not.

And you believe idealism is coherent because ... ?

you are not just saying matter exists, but you are saying something about the fundamental nature of matter. that it is fundamental. this is not something you prove by observation as you obviously can't tell the difference between a material object and a material object you are Hallucinating.