Idealism is more Rational than Materialism

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Idealism is more Rational than Materialism

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RE: Idealism is more Rational than Materialism

February 6, 2015 at 9:30 am

So, to sum your argument up and make sure I understand it:

I experience my own consiousness.
I experience matter, through my own consiousness.

Therefore it is more likely that my own consiousness exsits, rather than matter. Is that right?

If that is correct, then I'd have thought that the fundamental thing is your own consiousness, not consiousness in general. Which means you don't get to start implying this means afterlives and God.

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Idealism is more Rational than Materialism - by Rational AKD - February 2, 2015 at 3:11 am

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