(February 8, 2015 at 11:29 am)Brakeman Wrote:(February 7, 2015 at 9:01 pm)emilynghiem Wrote: Dear Mental Outlaw
if you are a secular gentile you are under natural laws.
leave the scriptural laws to those believers who are called to answer to them.
If you are not one this is not your jurisdiction.
"Don't question it" is a stupid dodge of the ignorant. Everyone has to be familiar with something before they are able to "believe" or agree with it.
You weren't born a believer. You had to be sold the crazy story by your family or neighbors, there is no silly "Jurisdiction." I doubt you even know what the word means.
??? I don't have to read all the Quran to know that isn't for me.
here is my explanation of the Bible where it isn't necessary to read the whole thing to get the message and decide if you are secular and prefer natural laws:
To explain the story of humanity summarized in the Bible, it helps to distinguish the difference between the Old and New Testaments, which determines if the rest will make sense at all, or even needs to be read.
In short, the Old Testament records the tragic history of living by the "letter of the law" and retributive justice, causing death and genocidal destruction by greed, while the New Testament paints a positive future for humanity, with renewed love of life and relationships by restorative justice, living by the "spirit of the law" for lasting peace.
The key difference between these paths is divine forgiveness, which breaks the cycle of retribution inherited from previous generations. Without forgiveness, suffering repeats, projected forward. However, by receiving forgiveness and correction, where Jesus represents the spiritual process of embracing equal justice, humanity finds liberation from past strife by establishing universal truth, justice, and peace on earth. Thus, human nature is destined to reach maturity in mind, body, and spirit, collectively symbolized by the Holy Trinity.
Salvation in Jesus represents restorative justice with mercy, bringing healing grace to end conflicts. Reconciling local laws among individuals with universal laws on a global scale fulfills both in perfect harmony or marriage between people, as the bride or church, united with the authority of law or state.
The story of sacrifice and redemption represents the spiritual process each individual experiences to grow in life -- through trials, failures, and recovery -- which drives humanity to reach spiritual understanding, wholeness, and peace.