RE: Answers in Genesis? I want an answer for this!
February 9, 2015 at 10:31 am
(This post was last modified: February 9, 2015 at 10:36 am by Nope.)
(February 9, 2015 at 1:41 am)emilynghiem Wrote: here is my explanation of the Bible where it isn't necessary to read the whole thing to get the message and decide if you are secular and prefer natural laws:
What do you mean by natural laws?
How can you belong to a religion that you believe is true and not read its holy text? If I honestly believed a deity had assisted somehow in the writing of a holy book, I would read the entire book multiple times. Many atheists have read the bible from cover to cover so why wouldn't a Christian read their own damn holy book?
Quote:In short, the Old Testament records the tragic history of living by the "letter of the law" and retributive justice, causing death and genocidal destruction by greed, while the New Testament paints a positive future for humanity, with renewed love of life and relationships by restorative justice, living by the "spirit of the law" for lasting peace.
Jewish people might not agree with you. Actually, I could see why they would be highly insulted. You are basically saying that your screwed up god played a game with their forefather's lives and souls just to prove that your savior was needed. Doesn't that bother you? The bible states that your god does not change so the same god that ordered entire communities killed is also the one that you worship today.
Quote:The key difference between these paths is divine forgiveness, which breaks the cycle of retribution inherited from previous generations. Without forgiveness, suffering repeats, projected forward.
The Old Testament contradicts itself on sin passing through the generations.
Deuteronomy 24
Quote:16"Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin.
and
Ezekiel 18
Quote:20 The one who sins is the one who will die. The child will not share the guilt of the parent, nor will the parent share the guilt of the child. The righteousness of the righteous will be credited to them, and the wickedness of the wicked will be charged against them.
However....
Exodus 20
Quote:5"You shall not worship them or serve them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers on the children, on the third and the fourth generations of those who hate Me
Quote:However, by receiving forgiveness and correction, where Jesus represents the spiritual process of embracing equal justice, humanity finds liberation from past strife by establishing universal truth, justice, and peace on earth. Thus, human nature is destined to reach maturity in mind, body, and spirit, collectively symbolized by the Holy Trinity.
We don't have universal truth, justice or peace today. I am not certain what you are trying to say here.
(February 8, 2015 at 11:29 am)Brakeman Wrote:(February 7, 2015 at 9:01 pm)emilynghiem Wrote: Dear Mental Outlaw
if you are a secular gentile you are under natural laws.
leave the scriptural laws to those believers who are called to answer to them.
If you are not one this is not your jurisdiction.
"Don't question it" is a stupid dodge of the ignorant. Everyone has to be familiar with something before they are able to "believe" or agree with it.
You weren't born a believer. You had to be sold the crazy story by your family or neighbors, there is no silly "Jurisdiction." I doubt you even know what the word means.
I still wish emily would answer what she meant by secular gentiles having no jurisdiction.
