(February 13, 2015 at 4:41 am)robvalue Wrote: We really need to shake this notion that animals are just a cat or a dog and it's that simple. As usual, religion tries to reduce extremely complex ideas to tiny, discrete, simple ones so it can pile them up and knock them over.
And I need to get a t-shirt saying "evolution wrong =/= goddidit".
People don't seem to get that. False dichotomy. Bleh.
False and strict dichotomies seem to be hard wired into their oversimplified worldview. How often do we run into this with apologists? Let me try to do a quick rundown of all the examples that immediately leap to mind:
1. Pascal's Wager
2. C.S. Lewis' Trilemma (OK, that's a false trichotomy but same principle)
3. "Either (our) God dictates morals or anything goes"
4. "Either Jesus existed or someone just made him up one day"
5. "Either Christianity is true or life has no meaning"
6. Presuppositionalism (the mother-load of false dichotomies and other fallacies)
...and let's not forget the unspoken false dilemma implicit in nearly all their arguments for (their) god:
7. "Either our god exists or no god exists."
Apologetics, by design, is made to appeal to those seeking simple answers with minimal thinking. Additionally, false dilemmas are rather hardwired into Christian (as well as Islamic) worldviews. Jesus-or-Satan. Heaven-or-Hell. Saved-or-lost. There is no "Bob the Neutral Christ".
As Monte Python's Spanish Inquisition put it, "there is no third thing, is that clear?"
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist