(February 15, 2015 at 4:18 pm)Heywood Wrote: This was really a 2-10 spread limit game with a kill....and this was a kill pot(I called it 4-20 because I didn't want to explain what a kill is).
Anyone who has any business answering questions likes this knows what a kill is. Just sayin'.
(February 15, 2015 at 4:18 pm)Heywood Wrote: The players seemed a little more timid in kill pots, I had been betting 16 with hands like KJ against limpers and everyone folds which is a coup in my opinion. I figure I bet 16 here with premium hands and mediocre hands to make it harder to read me. I figure 16 gets the job done, by either folding everyone out, or going to the flop heads up with position with one of the limpers. The limpers all have less than 100 in front of them so take the bulk of their stacks when this hand goes to show down and I win. I was surprised that this pot went this multiway.
Well, obviously, you know the local meta better than I do, but with three limpers as stated in the OP (or even two as you stated later), making it 20 to go discourages the blinds and the limpers from speculating based on pot odds. I don't alter my raise amounts based on the cards I hold - I alter it based on the situation: and 2-3 limpers ahead of me with the button and blinds left to act tells me to cut down the pot odds as much as I can.
(February 15, 2015 at 4:18 pm)Heywood Wrote: I do agree that raising the max preflop in this game is often the best play. The money in this game is made preflop and on the flop. Because of the structure, its harder to get people to make mistakes on the turn and river. The pot is just too large compared to bet sizes. In a non kill pot, I raise to the max preflop. I three bet to the max pre-flop, but fold to a three bet as my default.
Yeah, I agree that in such games it's harder to get people to make mistakes on the turn and river. Such is the nature of limit and spread-limit games (and a great argument for not playing them LOL).
I wouldn't alter your play just because it's a kill pot. Max raise because you a) have position, b) have a premium hand that doesn't play well multiway (and is hard to play postflop), and c) because limiting the field should be your goal. Making the smaller raise encourages more calls, which is going to make the pot bigger, and make it harder for you to induce mistakes later. If they all fold, that's fine with me here too.
