(February 15, 2015 at 2:42 pm)coolfunkDJ Wrote: So I have been talking to an agnostic friend recently and he had a point and Id like to see your points of views on it!
So if you don't know recently a supposedly anti thiest went out onto the street and shot up 3 muslims because he thought they were wrong, Now heres the question, with the shootings in Paris which was caused by a bunch of militant muslims, a bunch of people blamed Islam and there teachings on it!
But is that wrong? Considering an anti thiest shot 3 muslims, no matter how much anti-thiests hate religion, I highly doubt a lot of you want to kill people who believe in it! so should we stop summing up religious based shooting with religion? What do you think?
Link to the article: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/...38126.html
Hi CoolFunk yes and no
1. No, I would agree not to paint with too broad a brush and blame all Muslims for Jihadists and terrorists, and blame all Christians for Klan and Zionists, or blame all 2nd Amendment advocates for gun violence, etc.
2. In cases where there was collusion and conspiracy going on, like in general the collective support of terrorists pushing for physical retribution against the journalists or cartoonists blaspheming Mohammad, then this does need to be addressed with that group, in whatever ways they claim to identify and associate as a group.
The REAL issue I see going on is the political belief in due process (which most American Muslims respect as most Christians also respect govt authority) v s extreme individuals who start bypassing due process and have political beliefs exerting equal authority as govt to carry out executions themselves (as ISIS does acting as judge jury and executioner without due process).
If we address the political belief about due process and defense, then we can identify "which people or groups" side with which beliefs. then I believe in setting up special realms of jurisdiction where such groups can live by their own laws, and not impose on those who believe in due process and civil governance.
If we have set places where it is agreed that such groups will rule in militant ways over themselves and their own members, then we can agree that when we find such individuals, who don't believe in due process, they can be sent to go live there.
I think that will separate the sheep from the goats rather clearly.
All the people who threaten to carry out punishments instead of going through legal processes would also have to agree to be deported if they don't respect due process.
