RE: Christian- 90% of us suck
February 20, 2015 at 5:27 pm
(This post was last modified: February 20, 2015 at 5:37 pm by robvalue.)
Whoah wait... Assuming the miracles occured? Why would we assume that?
Would any book ever, other than the bible, cause you to make such an assumption?
The rest of what you say sounds very much like the classic "argument from ignorance", that if no naturally explanation has yet been found, we can just insert any supernatural one we feel like.
We don't have to discount miracles, we have to consider whether there is any evidence for them, that is how scepticism and science works. And a bunch of textual accounts could never be sufficient evidence for a supernatural event. How can those accounts, which are at best just someone's description, be used to discount any natural explanation that there could ever possibly be?
If someone comes to you and says they've been abductees by aliens, do you assume they are right until you can find another explanation?
And that's assuming it happened at all, and wasn't massively distorted over time. Which we all know it was, the bible went through thousands of iterations.
Thanks for replying! It's so good to debate someone who doesn't just go "no you're wrong". That really gets boring.
Just for comparison: how many eye witness accounts of me actually being jesus, returning from heaven, would be sufficient for you to accept it as probably true?
Would any book ever, other than the bible, cause you to make such an assumption?
The rest of what you say sounds very much like the classic "argument from ignorance", that if no naturally explanation has yet been found, we can just insert any supernatural one we feel like.
We don't have to discount miracles, we have to consider whether there is any evidence for them, that is how scepticism and science works. And a bunch of textual accounts could never be sufficient evidence for a supernatural event. How can those accounts, which are at best just someone's description, be used to discount any natural explanation that there could ever possibly be?
If someone comes to you and says they've been abductees by aliens, do you assume they are right until you can find another explanation?
And that's assuming it happened at all, and wasn't massively distorted over time. Which we all know it was, the bible went through thousands of iterations.
Thanks for replying! It's so good to debate someone who doesn't just go "no you're wrong". That really gets boring.
Just for comparison: how many eye witness accounts of me actually being jesus, returning from heaven, would be sufficient for you to accept it as probably true?
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