RE: "Everything has a cause and an explanation" discussion.
February 21, 2015 at 11:12 am
(This post was last modified: February 21, 2015 at 11:13 am by GrandizerII.)
(February 21, 2015 at 11:06 am)Alex K Wrote:(February 21, 2015 at 10:13 am)Irrational Wrote: I think we can. I provided logical proof that not everything has a cause or a beginning in another thread. What's nice about it is it's pretty intuitive.May I stop you here - when you say arise, do you mean that in a temporal sense? And if so, what precisely counts as something arising?
Pretty much goes like this:
Out of nothing, nothing arises.
Could be temporal, could be some other sort of sense (atemporal or whatever), whatever it may be. There is no specific sense attached to the term. If you want a better term than "arise", I can't think of one atm.
Could you explain why this is something I need to specify? What logical problems would arise from me not specifying?
(February 21, 2015 at 11:10 am)Pizz-atheist Wrote: What counts as "nothing?"
By that, I mean literal philosophical nothing. Not Krauss's nothing. To me, the latter is still something.
