(February 22, 2015 at 1:27 pm)Ignorant Wrote: If I may offer my own simple understanding: When you hear the "out of nothing, nothing comes" line used within the argument for "creation" out of nothing, chances are the theist is, innocently, conflating propositions which comes from reason and propositions which come from articles of faith.
Which is kinda the end of the conversation, if you have to lean on faith to establish your conclusion.
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