(February 22, 2015 at 1:27 pm)Ignorant Wrote: ... "out of nothing, nothing comes" is a philosophical claim which, as this thread has shown, is more or less reasonable.
It entails infinite regress. It is not reasonable to start with "Out of nothing nothing comes," and conclude that there was a beginning.
Quote: If there were indeed nothing at some point, (i.e. no god, no matter, no energy, no space, no time, no potentiality, etc.), then the fact that, today, there exists something, demands a pretty elegant explanation, if not an impossible one.
It sounds like you're saying the universe is eternal, that it had no creator.
Quote:The concept of "creation out of nothing" is a claim of revealed Christian faith (as well as Judaism and Islam) because inherent in the claim is an act (i.e. creation ex nihilo) which must come from an agent (which is implicitly understood to be God).
You can have "creation ex nihilo," or you can have "nothing comes from nothing." Since they contradict each other, you can't have both.
