(February 23, 2015 at 1:15 am)Irrational Wrote: We seem to differ on how each of us conceives of "nothing". You seem to be saying that "void" is a "nothing", and that's a fair statement to make, but when I read about being in a cube of "nothing" and observing "nothing", I'm unable to see how this is actually a "nothing".
I'll agree that the closest to "nothing" in reality would be something like what you're referring to.
The beauty of this is that it is a thought experiment, if you do imagine a total void then it works just as well as if you imagine a quantum vacuum. The symmetry is still there.
MM
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"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)