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President Obama: Do you really love America?
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America?
(February 26, 2015 at 8:31 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(February 26, 2015 at 8:26 pm)Chuck Wrote: Immorality is to attempt to not allow others to appeal the same standard to justify their actions as that to which we had appeals to justify ours.
I think the word you're looking for is hypocrisy.

(February 26, 2015 at 8:27 pm)Parkers Tan Wrote: Given the discussion we had the other day, and the information you were given then, from reputable sources, you have no business shopping the above over simplistic caricature around, because (assuming you read those sources), you should know better.

Sorry, I don't remember. Link?

Yeah, I gathered that. I'm my phone right now and linking is a PITA, but if you haven't searched it by the time I get home I'll dig it up for you. You could also go straight to the two sources I posted, the Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy, and the Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy, and read through their entries for "moral relativism", as those were my sources.

(February 26, 2015 at 8:39 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Killing innocent civilians by mistake is not necessarily the same thing.

Next?

The Eighth Air Force attacked cities with ostensibly military targets using an instrument (the manned bomber unloading from five miles up) that wasn't really capable of the precision bombing that was the doctrine in place. Though they could achieve some decent accuracy under perfect conditions, those conditions rarely obtained in Europe, and this was understood even before we joined the war. So while in some circumstances I agree with you that there should be some weight attached to intent, it's often true what Chuck is saying, that in essence the military target was a fig leaf for attacks that were regarded as successful based on loss rates, not target damage even though wanton destruction and deaths were known, and sometimes designed. Why do you think incendiaries were used?

Of course, that's not addressing the attacks on Hamburg, Dresden, Lubeck, and other cities launched expressly to ignite firestorms, or XX Bomber Command's ops over Japan.

US histories tend to whitewash our role in WWII air bombardment as they throw the RAF under the bus.

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President Obama: Do you really love America? - by mralstoner - February 23, 2015 at 7:06 am
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Alex K - February 23, 2015 at 7:07 am
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Nope - February 24, 2015 at 8:15 am
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by abaris - February 24, 2015 at 1:25 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by abaris - February 24, 2015 at 8:26 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by KevinM1 - February 25, 2015 at 6:02 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Brian37 - February 24, 2015 at 7:39 am
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Nope - February 23, 2015 at 10:03 am
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by vorlon13 - February 23, 2015 at 12:28 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Mudhammam - February 24, 2015 at 12:05 am
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Losty - February 25, 2015 at 11:00 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Pizza - February 24, 2015 at 1:12 am
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by abaris - February 24, 2015 at 6:37 am
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Aisha - February 24, 2015 at 7:18 am
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Aisha - February 24, 2015 at 8:34 am
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Brian37 - February 25, 2015 at 5:46 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by abaris - February 25, 2015 at 5:54 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by abaris - February 26, 2015 at 10:32 am
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by abaris - February 26, 2015 at 3:40 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by abaris - February 26, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Thumpalumpacus - February 26, 2015 at 9:47 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by abaris - February 26, 2015 at 8:34 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by abaris - February 26, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by abaris - February 26, 2015 at 9:14 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Cato - February 25, 2015 at 9:51 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Cato - February 24, 2015 at 12:02 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Cato - February 24, 2015 at 4:19 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Aisha - February 24, 2015 at 5:04 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Pizza - February 25, 2015 at 3:54 am
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Cato - February 25, 2015 at 5:57 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Cato - February 25, 2015 at 10:10 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Cato - February 25, 2015 at 10:14 pm
RE: President Obama: Do you really love America? - by Cato - February 25, 2015 at 10:39 pm

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