Proof of God

[Ben Davis]

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Almost everyone is aware of a popular quarrel between theist and atheist concerning existence of God.

Atheist: Prove there is God
Theist: Prove there is no God

As being a theist, I have rather different approach to the question of atheist.

I say ok I agree with Mr. Atheist. I say there is no God. Nevertheless, is that the end of the story? I do not think so. If we say God does not exist then we are left with two options:

a. Nothingness or
b. Alternate of God

Nothingness:
Nothingness can only produce non-existence, and so it cannot be the foundation of any ideology. The universe can only function because it is not nothingness. Logically, nothingness cannot be expressed in any logical form because there is no way in which nothingness can be expressed in terms of being. Nothingness cannot be a subject for investigation in science. Since pure nothingness is an impossibility, there never was a time when Being did not exist. In short, Being is eternal. Thus, Being possesses the divine attributes of necessity, eternity, omnipresence, and infinity. Consequently, Being is God Himself.

Alternate of God:
If God has not created universe then there are three possible assumptions about the existence of Universe:

a. Universe is eternal
b. Universe popped out of nothingness
c. Universe created itself

a. The astronomical phenomenon Redshift negates the idea that universe has eternal past or eternal future.

b. If I say, X creates Y I am assuming the existence of X to explain the existence of Y but if I say X creates X (the universe creates itself) I am assuming the existence of universe to explain its existence, which is utterly absurd.

c. Nothingness means “not anything.” “Not anything” cannot produce something.

Conclusion: Universe is a created finite being

Al-Ghazali proposed:

1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore, the universe has a cause.

Any power that is capable to create and sustain universe is God.

Logically, Nothingness does not exist and there is no alternate of God. Alternate of God is God.

“But those in whose hearts is a disease,- it will add doubt to their doubt, and they will die in a state of Unbelief.”
At Taubah (9)
-Verse 125-

“O mankind! there hath come to you a direction from your Lord and a healing for the (diseases) in your hearts,- and for those who believe, a guidance and a Mercy.”
Yunus (10)
-Verse 57-

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The First Cause (AKA Kallam Cosmological) Argument has made a bit of resurgence on the board over the past couple of weeks. What's happened? Has a WLC vid been doing the rounds?

Harris, it's a nonsense argument because:

1. it ignores the fact that there are states of the universe (other than the one we currently inhabit) where causality, as we experience it, may not exist
2. There's no such thing as 'Nothing'
3. The most you can get from this is a deistic, impersonal, distant god, far removed from the theistic definitions of god
4. It fails to tell us where god comes from so it just pushes the answer back a step: it only pretends to be an answer but really leaves us with more questions than we had before

Have a look around the board, you'll see plenty of other recent rebuttals to your argument.