RE: Former atheist
February 27, 2015 at 12:04 pm
(This post was last modified: February 27, 2015 at 12:05 pm by SteelCurtain.)
(February 27, 2015 at 1:20 am)wiploc Wrote: On the one hand, that makes sense. And we were all born atheists, so of course it's true that they used to be atheists.
On the other hand, sometimes they are clearly lying.
I am not saying that we should never question a person, but the question is to what end? To discredit them? Okay. That could help develop a pattern that you could point out later. But once you have fleshed out whether they were a "true" atheist or not, you are still left with the discussion at hand. You essentially have gotten nowhere.
Now I am all for establishing definitions so the discussion can progress as well. But again, just getting the "neener-neener" of no you weren't an atheist is often petty and sometimes it does nothing to advance the conversation. In fact it is mostly used by the theist as a diversionary tactic to get the conversation off the thing he cannot prove.
"There remain four irreducible objections to religious faith: that it wholly misrepresents the origins of man and the cosmos, that because of this original error it manages to combine the maximum servility with the maximum of solipsism, that it is both the result and the cause of dangerous sexual repression, and that it is ultimately grounded on wish-thinking." ~Christopher Hitchens, god is not Great
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