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RE: Proof of God

February 28, 2015 at 9:33 am (This post was last modified: February 28, 2015 at 9:34 am by robvalue.)

Also, this argument doesn't demonstrate that the "God" still exists, if it existed in the first place. Saying the universe needs maintaining is an assertion unrelated to the argument.

This Kalam stuff is about the worst of all the arguments as it has piles of problems.

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RE: Proof of God - by Mudhammam - April 25, 2015 at 1:39 pm

RE: Proof of God - by Harris - April 27, 2015 at 6:57 am

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RE: Proof of God - by Harris - May 2, 2015 at 8:56 am

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RE: Proof of God - by bennyboy - May 3, 2015 at 1:40 am

RE: Proof of God - by Neo-Scholastic - May 2, 2015 at 10:56 am

RE: Proof of God - by LostLocke - May 3, 2015 at 11:54 am

RE: Proof of God - by Harris - April 25, 2015 at 4:34 am

RE: Proof of God - by pocaracas - April 22, 2015 at 5:16 pm

RE: Proof of God - by downbeatplumb - April 24, 2015 at 1:48 pm

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RE: Proof of God - by robvalue - February 27, 2015 at 2:38 am

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RE: Proof of God - by Homeless Nutter - February 28, 2015 at 7:17 am

RE: Proof of God - by robvalue - February 28, 2015 at 9:33 am

RE: Proof of God - by robvalue - March 3, 2015 at 9:59 am

RE: Proof of God - by FatAndFaithless - March 3, 2015 at 10:21 am

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RE: Proof of God - by Cyberman - May 13, 2015 at 9:24 pm

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