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Hume weakened analogical arguments for God.
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RE: Hume weakened analogical arguments for God.
(March 1, 2015 at 5:15 pm)Pizz-atheist Wrote: "Our ideas reach no farther than our experience."

I'm probably an odd duck of an atheist, since I'm not a strict empiricist and strict evidentialist. I'm okay with going beyond evidence if and only if all the evidence we have is ambiguous, imprecise, and weak on all sides and going beyond evidence and reason doesn't lead us to run counter to reason and evidence. I think it's okay to believe "I'm not a brain in a vat," "inductive reasoning is reliable," and etc. It's not okay to believe in Young Earth creationism, flat-earth theory and etc.
I am not sure if I would consider myself a strict empiricist though I certainly align myself with empiricism, which is consistent with how I read that statement. I see Hume basically saying what Kant did, though with far greater sophistication in his vivisection of knowledge in the CPR, that the content of our conceptions is limited by the data of sense perception. That is, you can't imagine an object that isn't derived from the experience of touch (using touch as a synonym for perception that includes all of the senses, since it is through touch that light particles meet the eyes and illuminate vision, the touch of sound waves that rush into our ears, etc.). It would be like asking a person totally blind from birth to think of a rainbow.

The apparent exception to this rule, I suppose, is mathematics and in some sense, ethics. We can conceive of numbers in relation to objects when conjecturing how our minds first discovered reason and then complex abstract formulations, imagining some nomadic hunter-gatherers learning to differentiate between one finger, two fingers, three fingers, etc. But unlike anything else that I can think of, with numbers we can eliminate any object of sense from view, such as five fingers, and just analyze numbers themselves in arithmetic. And the amazing thing is its utility in creating a framework by which all nature appears intelligible. Still, I can't see that numbers don't belong in the same category of being that concepts such as justice do, in that without perception they have no content. What is justice or the number one if it is not of something?
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
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Hume weakened analogical arguments for God. - by Pizza - February 28, 2015 at 1:21 am
RE: Hume weakened analogical arguments for God. - by Angrboda - February 28, 2015 at 10:15 am
RE: Hume weakened analogical arguments for God. - by Pizza - February 28, 2015 at 11:13 pm
RE: Hume weakened analogical arguments for God. - by Mudhammam - February 28, 2015 at 11:17 pm
RE: Hume weakened analogical arguments for God. - by Pizza - February 28, 2015 at 4:33 pm
RE: Hume weakened analogical arguments for God. - by Mudhammam - March 1, 2015 at 5:54 pm

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