(March 3, 2015 at 12:43 pm)Lek Wrote: It just amazes me that you guys can look around the world and say that sin does not exist. Look around you and tell me we're all basically good. We're not punished for being born, we're punished for our actions. Are you saying that if we murder someone, we're not sinning? I don't think you are contending that nobody does anything immoral, but that our actions don't incur any debt to a god. Of course, if you don't believe in God, then you're not going to accept the concept of sin. You're idea of being good just to be good is a Godly concept, and is actually why we should lead moral lives. The problem is that we are born with a propensity to do bad things, which is demonstrated in the world, not only in the present time, but all through history. Is there anybody you know who has never done anything immoral? Have you made atonement to everyone you have wronged? If not, why do you not feel any guilt. If you feel no guilt over these things, then what is your mechanism for not repeating these actions? If I saw a situation in which non-theists were all living in love, peace and harmony your argument would be much more convincing to me, but I've never seen that yet.
Considering sin is such a broad thing and the fact christians purpose the idea of original sin because 2 people ate a apple and could start to think for themselves as a bad thing. So no sin doesn't exist because its to broad of thing and the fact being in a modern age as of now compared to then people are more moral now than back then in biblical days. So yeah jesus of the bible died for nothing because if god knew people were going to be this moral these days he wouldn't have chosen to die.
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